Sir Percy Bates told the Southern Railway that it was a question of. Typical winter conditions in the North Atlantic. The small vessel's skipper hoisted a flag signal: Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. They were huge sitting targets in a hostile ocean. Finally, Queen Elizabeth was sold to Hong Kong businessman Tung Chao Yung, who intended to convert her into a floating university cruise ship called Seawise University. She underwent refit work in drydock adding accommodation and armaments, and three hundred naval ratings quickly painted the hull. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. Following his retirement, Sir James was in great demand as a lecturer and one day was telling some schoolchildren of the days when 2,000 lbs of bacon and 32,000 eggs were cooked for breakfast every day. There was some talk of permanently flooding the bilge and allowing the Queen Elizabeth to rest on the bed of the Intracoastal Waterway in Ft. Lauderdale harbour (Port Everglades) and remain open, but the ship was forced to close in August 1970, after losing money and being declared a fire hazard. The planned several-week trip turned into months as the crew battled with boiler issues and a fire. These agreements had to be filed within 24 hours of the ships return to a UK port. Those crew members who, for family or other reasons, declined to sign the new articles were taken off the QUEEN ELIZABETH, sworn to secrecy and subsequently spent many hours, virtually interned, on board the Southampton tender ROMSEY in a nearby loch. The Clyde Navigation Trust indicated that the dredged channel in the Clyde would not be ready before the end of February 1940. This is not given in the Merchant seaman registers 1835-1857 until 1854. Cunard had insisted that he sail with the ship on her supposed coastal voyage as part of a ruse to throw enemy agents off the scent as to her actual destination. above: The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaves Southampton with over 15,000, returning G.I.s in August 1945, and below: her triumphant arrival at New York. With flight time cut from twelve to less than seven hours, the lure was irresistible. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Breakfast was from 6.30am until 11.am; and dinner from 3.pm to 7.30pm. The Hales Trophy, awarded for the Atlantic speed record, left Southampton on 8th November 1952 on board the new holder, the UNITED STATES, which crossed from New York to Bishop Rock at 35.59 knots on her maiden voyage. It was proposed that the Cunard Steamship Company and the Oceanic Steamship Company (the White Star Line) would both sell their North Atlantic fleets and assets, including '534', to a new company to be called Cunard - White Star Limited. The QUEEN ELIZABETH docked at Southampton at 11.am on 10th October. At eleven o'clock that evening Captain Townley opened his sealed orders and the, Towards the end of 1940 additional seamen arrived on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, having travelled from Halifax, N.S. Queen Elizabeth's 'cherished wish' that she might someday sail in the liner was fulfilled in October 1954 when, by now Queen Mother, she embarked at the beginning of a tour to the United States and Canada. With potentially upward of 500 crew requiring to scramble up from their quarters below, the sheer climb would have presented quite a hazard, particularly in bad weather and at a time of emergency. For the QUEEN ELIZABETH the war was over. The next largest category comprised business travel and if current medical opinion was correct there was a danger that modern airspeed had outstepped the capacity of man to adapt himself to its stress. How much more dignified it would have been to have broken the ship up in 1968. CPO. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the, Another obvious difference between the two ships was the lack of a forward well deck on the new QUEEN ELIZABETH. The forward Observation Bar on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. On another occasion the Elizabeth had to go full astern because a yacht crossed her path, and as a result the liner's stern touched a mud bank. With the aid of two local tugs the liner finally put down two anchors some six miles off Oranjestad, Aruba. From the mid 1940s until the mid 1950s both the 'Queens' were given a short summer overhaul at Southampton. [26] The vessel was sold at auction in 1970 to Hong Kong tycoon Tung Chao Yung.[9]. AB. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. Two thousand men were ferried out daily to work on the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY as she lay at anchor off Hong Kong. That evening the crew was paid off and just 193 were retained to take the Elizabeth on her delivery voyage to Fort Lauderdale. Click onBT 98to search by date and name of British port where the ship was registered. WebSearch and download () lists of passengers boarding at UK and Irish ports and travelling to places such as America, Canada, India, New Zealand and Australia between 1890 and 1960 (BT 27) on the findmypast.co.uk website and also on the Ancestry.co.uk website. It took about an hour to manoeuvre the ship's head downstream towards the sea and gradually a crowd of several hundred gathered to watch the QUEEN ELIZABETH slip quietly, almost furtively, by. Over 3,000 tons had to be pumped out eventually at a cost of 140,000 to Mr Tung. It was not until 1926 that Cunard began thinking about the replacements for the express steamers. (The QUEEN MARY had been ship number 534). The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank in the Firth, of Clyde as John Brown's workmen transform her from a troopship. It was named after Dr Gauss, a nineteenth century expert on magnetism, whose theories had enabled the Germans to produce their new lethal magnetic mines. After disembarking the U.S. troops at Sydney on 6th April 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH remained in port for thirteen days before sailing for Fremantle on 19th April. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. The QUEEN MARY's post-war refit was completed in the summer of 1947 and on 1st August she joined her larger sister in the long-delayed two-ship Atlantic express ferry service for which they had both been built. Many of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's fittings had been placed ashore in New York, Sydney and Singapore when she was converted into a troopship and all these globally scattered items had to be returned to Southampton for refurbishment, assembly, sorting and fitting. He described it as 'a British understatement with a vengeance, as though the British world of ships and shiplovers looked the other way until she had gone. This awe-inspiring warship is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the Elizabeth had to wait until 17th April when at 8.40pm she was finally pulled off the mud. In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. On the right hand side was the certificate of discharge, which had spaces to fill in the name of the ship, official number, port of registry, registered tonnage, port of departure, name of seaman, date of birth, place of birth, capacity, date of entry into crew lists, place and date of discharge. The QUEEN ELIZABETH alongside the Gare Maritime at Cherbourg, The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were regular. A Schedule D form was headed Accounts Of Voyages And Crew For Home Trade Ship. The QUEEN ELIZABETH sailing from Southampton. On 26th October 1958 the first American commercial jet took off for Paris and a whole new era was born. At the Cunard Steamship Company's Annual General Meeting held on 28th May 1959, the Chairman Colonel Denis Bates speculated on how the world would be travelling in the future. For example, for a ship with the number 25820, search using 258* (include the asterisk) as your keyword. She had been designed for five-day transatlantic passages, not for long voyages. A week after her arrival at Gourock, the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed for Suez on 17th June (via Freetown and Simonstown) with reinforcements for the British Eighth Army to help stem Rommel's advance towards the Canal. GGA Image ID # 1d3753c0c2, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Stateroom. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. By the end of the year Queen Inc. was bankrupt with debts of $12 million. being transported (not for $100) in the QUEEN ELIZABETH who, in a burst of enthusiasm, said to one of the officers: "Say, why can't you British build a ship like this?" shipyard, bound for the Tail of the Bank off Greenock. Shuttle'. The U.704, under the command of Kapitan Horst Kessler, was wallowing in a Force 8 gale off the west coast of Ireland before returning south to its base in France. The QUEEN MARY found a buyerin the form of the City of Long Beach, California and she left Southampton on 31st October 1967 carrying 1,000 passengers on what was billed as 'The Last Great Cruise', involving a passage around Cape Horn. Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary were used as troop transports during the Second World War. And so, on 24th June 1945, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Gourock with her first load of returning G.I.s. Three years later it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would return to the Clyde in December 1965 for extensive improvements by her builders, John Brown & Company. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the Mary. This would also free the fitting-out berth which was urgently needed for the DUKE OF YORK. Her propellers thrashed the shallow water into billowing clouds of yellow and black as sand and mud were churned up from the sea bed. The first was New Zealand and the second was Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas Group of islands. However the year 1957 proved to be the irreversible turning point when an equal number of people were transported by air as were carried by sea. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. A temporary electrical fault had developed with the. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. It was on 3rd February 1971 that the first engine trials were carried out and sailing day was set for Wedmesday 10th February. The first, on 28th January in cabin main-deck 93, was extinguished by Southampton Fire Brigade and the second fire, just twenty-four hours later, was discovered in a C-deck cabin. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. [9], The new ship improved upon the design of Queen Mary[10] with sufficient changes, including a reduction in the number of boilers to twelve instead of Queen Mary's twenty-four, that the designers could discard one funnel and increase deck, cargo and passenger space. Altogether the QUEEN ELIZABETH made 35 round voyages across the North Atlantic on the 'G.I. These earlier records were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by name of ship (see the respective sections below for advice on finding earlier records). The salvage tug RESCUE arrived on 16th February as the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY continued her southward drift through the Windward Passage into the Caribbean. On 25th November 1935 Sir Percy Bates wrote to Swan Hunter; Vickers Armstrong; John Brown and Cammell Laird advising them that, although his Board had not reached any final decision, they might decide to build a vessel to run alongside the QUEEN MARY. The Pacific was too dangerous for her with both German and Japanese submarines on the prowl. The Official Number was allocated on registration, retained for the life of the ship, and was not reused. Passengers: 850 first, 720 cabin, 744 tourist. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. It was decided to steam her all the way and a Chinese crew was flownto Florida, along with workers from Mr Tung's own shipyard. Two stops would be required for refuelling and watering. This would take at least an hour plus many miles, and this would not have allowed her to stop within Kessler's observation. In May 1962 the Cunard Line announced that, for the first time ever, the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be going cruising. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. The Elizabeth's final round voyage to New York left Southampton on 23rd October 1968. At the start of the Second World War, it was decided that Queen Elizabeth was so vital to the war effort that she must not have her movements tracked by German spies operating in the Clydebank area. The following morning a small coastal collier was seen in the Irish Sea wallowing along at 6 knots. Whilst in Singapore many of the crew frequented a pub called the, After leaving Singapore the QUEEN ELIZABETH headed for Sydney. From the outset the intention had been to operate a two-ship service on the North Atlantic. Churchill, as First Lord of the Admiralty, expressed his fears for the safety of the QUEEN ELIZABETH and felt that she would fall victim to Nazi bombers in her exposed site at Clydebank. This is, indeed, the very heart of a shipping city, where, standing in the windows of that building, one can see the ships of all nations passing by in procession at tide-time, almost as mundanely as the trams whose terminus is at the water's edge. In January 1957 the Cunard Line announced that it had carried 275,500 passengers across the Atlantic in 1956, an increase of 16,500 over its 1955 carryings. Coincidentally, just one week later, the EMPRESS OF CANADA was burnt out in Gladstone Dock at Liverpool. brides to the United States while Queen Elizabeth was overhauled at the Firth of Clyde Drydock, in Greenock, by the John Brown Shipyard. In July 1962 Sir John Brocklebank, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, said that the QUEEN ELIZABETH still had many years to go and mechanically could be kept competitive for the foreseeable future. Cherbourg was chosen as the French port for the new ships as it had deeper water and a larger harbour than Le Havre. Cunard faced formidable competiion in the shape of the brand new liner FRANCE and the UNITED STATES operating a weekly integrated transatlantic service. Following the demise of Queen Elizabeth, the largest passenger ship in active service became the 66,343 GRT SSFrance, which was longer but with less tonnage than the Cunard liner. With Japan and the United States entering the war after the debacle of Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was laid up at Sydney for seven weeks. WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. The Americans wanted the work to be completed and then for the, The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. sails up the Hudson (the North River) to her berth at Pier 90. Mildenhall Wilfred Charles. Speed varied between 7 and 11 knots, with the higher speed using 300 tons of oil per day. The original design for the engines was for single-reduction geared turbines, the brainchild of Sir Charles Parsons, in which a reduction gear box is placed between the turbine and the propeller shaft for the purpose of allowing both the turbines and the propellers to run at speeds of revolution suitable for maximum efficiency; high speeds of revolution are required for turbine efficiency and low speeds for propeller efficiency. Shuttle work in earnest. They went ahead with plans for new quay accommodation and worked amicably with Cunard officials. The prospect to Cunard was just too daunting, and contributed greatly to the decision to dispose of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Be that as it may, John Thorneycroft's staff at Southampton were set a formidable task with the QUEEN ELIZABETH's overhaul in January 1953. Try search terms such as ship register or registrar general shipping and seamen. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. [21], The ship ran aground on a sandbank off Southampton on 14 April 1947, and was re-floated the following day. Dimensions, 987' x 118' She would carry 1,800 students plus 800 cruise passengers on world-wide voyages. It was out of the question for the Elizabeth to sail up to John Brown's shipyard at Clydebank, so it was planned to ferry men and equipment out to the liner as she lay at anchor off the Tail of the Bank. As required by law, Commodore Bisset obligingly raised the Cunarder's recognition flags 'G B S S'. The summer overhauls were routine and no special work was done. Works of art were also renovated by the original artists. In an lighter vein, it should not be forgotten that it was a G.I. [12] The interiors were designed by a team of artists headed by the architect George Grey Wornum. During this time, and for a while after, she was under American control through a lend-lease agreement. They hold 70% of the surviving crew lists and agreements for this period. The left hand side of the E-1 certificate was a certificate of character on which the master rated the seamans ability and character of conduct (VG, G Fair, Poor). The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. Barry Claud Barrington. This anticipated event never occurred and was considered very unlikely to occur, so the well space was plated in and used for additional accommodation. This would have been the OCEANIC, whose keel was laid at Harland & Wolff's yard in 1928. However, Commodore Bisset was not happy with the location of the quay alongside which the Elizabeth was berthed and considered it too exposed should a strong south-east wind blow up; the resulting swell would cause the ship to range back and forth, possibly breaking her moorings. Following the First World War, Germany was building up her passenger fleet from 'scratch' in an era of new developments. These are undeniable facts. Over the next three days the ship took on eighteen of her twenty-six lifeboats. GGA Image ID # 1d3776ba5f. Tung's great ship was reconditioned and converted into the ship of his dreams. In May 1930, Cunard began to make tentative enquiries about the possibility of dry-docking facilities at Southampton for its two new superliners. Sir Percy Bates told Commodore Bisset: "We do not expect you to attempt to make speed records either on the trials or on the maiden voyage. Although the 'Queens' could easily manage 27 or 28 knots, they were reduced to the convoy's common speed of around 20 knots. But the prime reason for the day's visit was for the Queen to unveil a portrait of herself. First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). Steam turbines. They became an establishment, a familiar sight to those who saw them arriving and departing, and a way of life to the crew who sailed them. There were four fins, two on either side of the ship. A serious fire broke out in No.4 boiler room on 13th February and was fortunately brought under control. Christopher T Watts and Michael J Watts, My Ancestor Was a Merchant Seaman(Society of Genealogists, second edition with addendum, 2004), Simon Wills,Tracing Your Merchant Navy Ancestors(Pen & Sword, 2012), For quick pointersTuesday to Saturday Other than for Southampton's Albion Band, the quayside was almost bereft of well-wishers. Tung had acquired the vessel for $3.5million, and had insured it for $8million, led some to speculate that the inferno was part of a fraud to collect on the insurance claim. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. With ' Queen Mary' she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. The QUEEN ELIZABETH almost ready for launching, The QUEEN ELIZABETH towers over the tenements of Clydebank. While a troupe of invading men from "Grand Fenwick", a fictional European micro-nation, cross the Atlantic to 'war' with the United States, they meet and pass the far larger Queen Elizabeth, and learn that the port of New York is closed due to an air raid drill. Additional competition in the form of the new UNITED STATES would also be a factor from mid 1952. In addition to the normal painting, scaling, underwater inspection, removal of propellers, drawing of tailshafts and so forth; 157 tourist-class cabins were given air-conditioning and provision was also made to carry more fuel. However, to stop the QUEEN ELIZABETH would take considerable time. [18] Initially she carried Australian troops to theatres of operation in Asia and Africa. Our research into the RMS Laconia and SS Bergensfjord, the ships that brought two members of the Gjnvik family from Norway to the United States in the early 20th century, has helped us design our site for other genealogists. On 6th February 1940 he ordered that the liner should leave the Clyde at the earliest possible date and 'remain away from the British Isles for as long as this order remains in force'. [9] During the trials, Queen Elizabeth took the wheel for a brief time, and the two young princesses recorded the two measured runs with stopwatches that they had been given for the occasion. "The voyage, while short, will be extremely difficult for all". It is comparatively short - a long weekend by the express steamers or six and a half hours by air. The QUEEN ELIZABETH approaching her berth at Pier 90 in the North River, at New York in the late 1940s. It can be appreciated that the jibe that Great Britain charged $100 a head to take soldiers to the battlefields of Europe was calculated to be extremely hurtful to Anglo-American friendship. BT 387 is arranged by ranges of ships names therefore you will need to browse the series. She had crossed the North Atlantic Ocean 896 times in peacetime, and had carried 2,300,000 passengers, steaming 3,472,675 nautical miles in the process, On 6th November 1968 Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother visited the ship for the very last time. In September 1969 a hurricane warning caused the then almost deserted ship to be partially scuttled to prevent her tearing away from her berth. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. Not only that, but the company headquarters was transferred from Liverpool to Southampton. For a short time the Queen Elizabeth, now under the command of Commodore Geoffrey Trippleton Marr attempted a dual role in order to become more profitable; when not plying her usual transatlantic route, which she now alternated in her sailings with the French Line's SS France, the ship cruised between New York and Nassau. A form known as a Schedule C was completed by the master of every Foreign Going Ship, filed within 48 hours of the ships return to a UK port. Four years and one day after the launch of the QUEEN MARY, on Tuesday 27th September 1938, Queen Elizabeth, who was Queen Mary's daughter-in-law, consort of her son King George VI, stood at the head of the same slipway on which the QUEEN MARY had been built. At first it was proposed that work on the Elizabeth would gradually be brought to a standstill as men transferred to warship work. At the end of her time at Gourock one thousand Clydebankers ('Bankies') sailed south with the ship to alleviate the acute shortage of local skilled labour at Southampton. Only a little fuel remained after the transatlantic crossing, but a barge moved alongside to take it off as necessary. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. Captain Duncan Cameron, the Southampton pilot, was still on board. The Americans wanted the work to be completed and then for the 'Elizabeth' to sail over to New York for inspection prior to approval and certification. However another of the still operational boilers was badly damaged: she was now down to just three. And so rota pilot F.G. Dawson boarded the Elizabeth off the Nab Tower. The Company injected $1 million into a new company called 'The Elizabeth (Cunard) Corporation' and held an 85% share. She did, however, remain all the while under Cunard management with British officers and crew. Following the tradition of the Orient Overseas Line, the ship was renamed Seawise University,[9] as a play on Tung's initials (C.Y.'s). A large amount of tropical growth that was fouling the liner's bottom plates needed to be removed: it was estimated that the growth reduced her speed by two knots or more. Parker Pen Company produced a special edition of 5,000 pens made from material recovered from the wreck, each in a presentation box; today these are highly collectible.[35]. The first-class restaurant on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Queen Elizabeth with Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. Cunard retired Queen Mary in 1967 and Queen Elizabeth completed her final Atlantic crossing to New York on 5 November 1968. Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. New York Mayor John Lindsay boarded the QUEEN ELIZABETH on sailing day 30th October to bid an official 'farewell'. The ship was now under Hong Kong ownership, and she sailed to Hong Kong on 10 February 1971. v3.0, except where otherwise stated, Merchant Navy ships records: crew lists, musters and log books, Friends of The National 1951onwards 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. The contract was signed on 6th October 1936 and the keel of ship number 552 was laid on 4th December. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. This meant that the crew had to re-sign on foreign-going Articles. There are a small number of log books in BT 98 and BT 99. Therefore Cunard approached the Government and asked them if they would bear the additional burden. In New York she found herself moored alongside both Queen Mary and the French Line's Normandie, the only time all three of the world's largest ocean liners were ever berthed together. "Public memory is notoriously short," said Dr Rebbeck, "It has apparently been forgotten that in 1927 we laid the keel of a 1,000 foot passenger liner for the White Star Line. Costing almost twice as much as the Mary, the French liner was also more lavish in her first-class apartments. A parakeet flew in through an open porthole at New York and quickly became the mascot of the ship's officers who bought him a fancy cage and named him Joey. [21] After her trials Queen Elizabeth finally entered passenger service, allowing Cunard White Star to launch the long-planned two-ship weekly service to New York. WebAll surviving agreements and crew lists with their logbooks are held by The National Archives, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. However, U.S. legislators had another surprise up their sleeve. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH never enjoyed the same affection that the Cunard men held for the QUEEN MARY, being described as the 'colder' of the two ships. A thirty-seven day cruise from New York to the Mediterranean sailed on 21st February 1967 and was plagued by bad weather and many ports had to be omitted from the itinerary. 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